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Hi everyone, my name is Adam Campbell. I currently work for Monster supplements. I thought it would be a good idea to create a thread where i can discuss my training, diet and any supplements i am using. i will review supplements in detail and update regularly with any training progression. Hopefully it will help people who may not have tried a supplement and would like it reviewing. It will also help me keep track of my progress and hopefully learn new info along the way. so here is a bit about me and my current training etc:
STATS as of 03/02/10:
AGE: 21
HEIGHT: 6'4
WEIGHT: 95KG
BODYFAT: 17% (ROUGHLY)
MEASUREMENTS:
ARMS: 16.5
CHEST: 45
QUAD: 25
LIFTS:
BENCH: 130KG
DEADLIFT: 220KG
SQUAT: 150KG
BACKGROUND:
I started training When i was 14. i weighed an extremely pathetic 7.5 stone. i have always been fascinated by training and loved worlds strongest man since i was very young. unfortunately i knew from very early on that i didnt have the genetics to be that big or strong but was determined to be the best i could be. i still remember the first time i went to the gym, struggling to bench the olympic bar. slowly i progressed and became more and more addicted. i didnt have a set goal (bodybuilding, powerlifting etc) i just knew i was progressing in size and strength, and that feeling was amazing. Over the following years i learnt a lot about diet, training and supplements. i have tried as many different training plans as i can to try and find what works best for me. i have also tried countless supplements. This trial and error approach has had its ups and downs but i feel i have found what best combinations of diet and trianing work for me individually. Through doing this i have doubled my bodyweight from starting to my current weight of 15 stone. I have remained natural throughout my training thus far and havent planned to take anything in the future. This is for personal reasons but i am not agains anyone taking prohormones or steroids in any way and am very pro-"do whatever makes you happy". I will be posting on this thread my current trianing plans, reviews of all supplements i try and progress reports. so here goes:
Current Diet (including supplements):
8:00AM – MEGA SHAKE (http://monstersupplements.com/blog/?p=270)
10:00AM – 1.5 scoops myofusion, 1 scoop waxy vol, 2 bananas
11:30AM – 250g rice, steamed veg and a chicken breast
1:00PM – 1.5 scoops myofusion, 1 scoop waxy vol, 2 bananas
3:00PM – 150g pasta, 1 tin tuna
5:00PM – peak body pro 50, 200g seeded wholemeal bread.
6:15PM - 2 scoops myofusion, 1 banana
6:30PM – train
7:30PM – PhD recovery 2:1
8:30PM – fish, jacket potato, steamed veg
10:00PM – PhD pharma blend
TOTAL CALORIES: roughly 6050
TOTAL PROTEIN: roughly 365g
TOTAL CARBS: roughly 970g
For snacks i eat too many protein bars really. I like the CNP proflapjacks and Probake cookies are very nice. At the moment my diet is not particularly clean as i simply want to add weight. i add olive oil to most of my shakes to add calories. I have a very fast metabolsim and struggle to put weight on so fat is never an issue (i have clear abs all year round). i will have take-aways on a weekend, and if i am still hungry during the day i will eat whatever is available in between this meal structure. i never miss a meal and am very strict to follow this outline of diet. I will be staying on this diet for another 12 weeks roughly before i start a diet for summer (going on holiday). My goal for this diet is to hopefully get up to 100kg in 12 weeks. this will be very hard as i struggle to put fat on so most of that will have to be lean :S
Current training:
over the years i have done mostly single body part splits (ie monday - chest, tuesday - back, thursday - shoulders etc) however at the moment i am doing an upper/lower split variation. i have been doing this routine for 4 weeks and have put on 2kgs of bodyweight. my squat has gone up 20kg (hadnt done it for a while before) to a new personal best, and my bench and deadlift have improved dramatically as well. it is something different to what i have always done so i am enjoying it massively. it is as follows:
Monday and Thursday:
Standing Barbell push press
Weighted chins
Incline Bench press
Deadlift
Bench press
Shrugs
Lateral raises supersetted with flyes
Tuesday and Friday:
Squat
Barbell curl
Leg press
Tricep dips
Leg extensions
Dumbell curls
Calf raises
Tricep pushdowns
I do a heavy day consisting of 3 sets of 5 reps and a light day consisting of 3 sets of 12-15 reps for each. monday heavy, tuesday light, thursday light, friday heavy. At first recovery was an issue but after the second week it was not a problem. DOMS just seemed to get less severe as though i was forcing my body to recover quicker. I feared it may be overtraining but making sure i never went to failure on the light day and just concentrate on style and making sure i keep rest periods short meant that i was not overloading the CNS. The benefit of this is also that my CV has improved massively. i box on a wednesday and saturday and have noticed great increases in my fitness. The heavy days have helped my strength tremendously as well. i have never been particualrly strong on the big 3 (due to my height lol) but with this routine i have finally broken through the 500kg barrier. my squat has improved 20kg!! most of all this routine is fun. i have been bored with the usual split and this is keeping the gym entertaining which i feel is always extremely important.
Current supplements:
Gaspari myofusion - this protein in my opinion is the best tasting protein on the market. i am officially addicted. i use it way more than i should so the tubs never last very long. there are only 63 ervings per tub so there are better value options out there but i happily pay for this supplement every time. it is a slightly blended protein containing egg protein as well as the wheys and it is slightly higher carb and fat than others so not the best for cutting. as a bulking whey protein if you dont want to spend your money on mass gainers then myofusion is a great option.
PhD waxy vol - a very unique product. it is waxy barley starch (a very low GI carb powder). i use it in most of my shakes (unflavoured, it also comes in berry which is very nice and mango flavour). i use it as a substitute for oats in my shakes. it is very cheap and a very useful addition whilst bulking.
PhD recovery 2:1 - This is without doubt the best post-workout shake i have ever used. with a combination of whey isolate, fast acting carbs and BCAA's it is everything you need post workout. It tastes fantastic and is very easy to get down after a hard session (many shakes make me feel a bit sick if taken straight after trianing). Berry flavour tastes amazing.
Gaspari size on - I drink this during trainning. i personally feel it is one of the best creatine formulas out there. my strength always improves whilst taking this product. i love the taste and love the results even more.
Millennium sport tec nitroceps - This is a new supplement to the market and is very similar to BSN nitrix. i didnt like nitrix when i tried them but after trying the cre o2 from MST i was quite excited about this product. i have only been using them for 3 days now but can certainly feel better pumps in my legs when squatting (felt like they were going to burst after leg extensions). i will keep you updated with this product.
i also snack on peak body pro 50 bars and CNP pro flapjacks
i will be trying the new no-xplode NT on friday so am very excited about that.
So there you have it. my goals for the next 12 weeks are to gain as much size as possible and improve my total to 520KG.
Pictures of my current state will be posted in a couple of days.
Happy training
Adam campbell
Hi everyone. I have taken some pictures of where i am now. I arent happy with my current condition by any stretch of the word but know that i have a base to improve on. these are the "before" pictures so please dont scrutinise too much.
http://monstersupplements.com/muscletalkimages/IMG_1071.JPG
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I am going on holiday in july so i have roughly 12 weeks to add as much muscle as possible (hopefully about 4lbs) before i start cutting. i have given myself about 8 weeks to cut as i find that bit very easy (as you can see i am an ectomorph).
anyway onto training.
last night i was really looking forward to trying the new No-xplode NT but i didnt get chance unfortunately. i had my nitroceps and a sample of VPX shotgun so felt very pumped up indeed. my gym is in the process of getting a power rack and the squat rack and deadlift area were being hogged all night. this meant i couldnt do standing barbell press or deadlift. instead my routine was:
seated barbell press:
55kg x 3 sets x 12
lat pull down:
100kg x 3 sets x 12
incline bench press:
70kg x 3 sets x 12
low pulley row:
200kg x 3 sets x 12
flat bench press
80kg x 3 sets x 12
shrugs:
140kg x 3 sets x 12
I only took it light and was done in about 35-40 minutes as didnt have a lot of time.
other than that it was a good session. i am however considering going back to basics for the next 12 weeks. i have been doing this current split for 6 weeks now and have enjoyed it but after looking at my pictures i need to add some more size so im going to revise my routine. i will be doing less calorie burning and heavier compound exercises. it will look something like this:
monday: chest
flat bench x 3
incline DB bench x 3
flat flyes x 3
wide grip dips x 3
tuesday: back
deadlift x 3
chins x 3
barbell row x 3
close grip pulldown x 3
thursday: shoulders
seated barbell press x 3
smith machine press x 3
lateral raises x 3
rear delt raises x 3
shrugs x 3
friday: legs
squat x 4
leg press x 3
leg extensions x 3
hamstring curls x 3
calf raises x 5
saturday: arms
EZ bar curl x 3
seated DB curl x 3
preacher hammer curl x 3
Tricep dumbell extension x 3
smith machine skullcrusher x 3
rope pushdowns x 3
i will start this routine on monday and will be going HEAVY on the compound lifts each day and slightly lighter and controlled on the isolations. im sure ill get carried away and go heavy right through but i will be concentrating on proper form rather than weight.
my diet will stay as it is but i am eating more inbetween the set programme.
ill keep you all updated with progress.
Happy training
Adam Campbell
hi all, hope you all had a good weekend.
Finally got to try the new BSN No-Xplode N-Tensity on saturday morning for an arms workout, so i thought id give it a quick reviewing on here.
I wasnt supposed to be training on saturday as i start a new routine today but a colleague here at monster challenged me to an arm workout. the workout was as follows:
biceps:
seated dumbell curls:
(without letting go of the dumbells)
10 reps right arm
10 reps left arm
8 reps right arm
8 reps left arm
6 reps right arm
6 reps left arm
17.5kg DB's
3 sets
barbell curls (pass straight to the partner, dont put bar down)
3 x 12 reps - 30kg
machine preacher curls, hammer curls superset:
4 sets to failure
Triceps:
cable overhead extension machine:
2 x 8 reps (nice and easy)
killer set:
4 reps full stack
4 reps 80%full stack
4 reps 70% full stack
7 reps 60% full stack (rest 10 seconds)
5 reps 60% full stack (rest 10 seconds)
5 negative reps on full stack
My arms were now so full of blood it felt like they were about to fall off
Dips:
3 x 12 with bodyweight (felt like i weighed 30 stone)
rope pushdowns:
3 x 12 reps
Finally finished!!
it was a very odd workout, unconventional to say the least but i thoroughly enjoyed it and it nearly killed my colleague so i was happy.
now for the N-T review:
Taste: I had a sample of the fruit punch flavour. Initial thoughts were "good god thats sweet". it tastes pleasant but just like liquidised jelly sweets.
Mixability: i mixed 1.5 sachets into about 400ml of water and there were no problems. you are supposed to stir it into the water but i can never be bothered so just give it a shake. i warn you now to hold onto the shaker cap if you take this approach. there is a very large gas build up that could be messy otherwise.
Focus: I have a good tolerance to caffeine etc but havent had a pre-workout in a while so was hoping to really "feel" this working. unfortunately it was nothing special. i felt a much better focus from white flood.
Energy: The workout wasnt a particularly hard one but it honestly felt like a breeze. i was ready for my next set immediately after finishing one. im not sure whether the no-xplode was fully responsible for this as im a big believer in the placebo theory but i can honestly say i felt really good.
Pump: Now this is the aspect of a pre-workout drink that i am most interested in when training arms (poser i know). i can honestly say i was blown away. at the end of my workout i couldnt even tense my arms they were that full of blood. they felt inflated far more than id ever seen them. so in this respect i was very happy.
Overall: overall i would give the N-T sticks an 8 out of 10. i was hoping for a 10 out of 10 and a new benchmark for pre-workout drinks but i was slightly let down. it is definately an improvement on the old no-xplode but i feel an experienced user of pre-workout drinks will need at least 2 stick packs to really get the best out of it.
so its back to basics tonight. looking forward to a good chest session. will let you all know how it goes.
My chest HURTS!!!
Really enjoyed last nights workout. Didnt go too heavy and felt like i had more in the tank when i had finished but i did the routine and enjoyed it:
Bench press:
110kg x 3 sets of 5 reps
incline dumbell bench:
42.5kg DBs x 6
37.5kg DBs x 8
37.5kg DBs x 8
Flat flyes:
25kg DBs x 3 sets x 10
wide grip dips:
bodyweight x 3 sets x 10
i didnt feel particularly tired after it and wanted to do more but am going to try and stick to this and see what happens.
After training i had my phd recovery 2:1 shake. when i got home i had 2 potatos, turkey and veg stew. I then went to play pool with my training partner and had a burger and curly fries (cant resist curly fries). Had my pharma blend before bed and got a good 9 hours sleep. Cant say better than that.
Ready for deadlift tonight!!
hi all, just a quick update today as time is short. did back on tuesday and shoulders last night. Felt really strange doing shoulders as my shoulder training has been limited to say the least recently. both went pretty well although my deadlifting was appaling for what i was hoping to be doing.
Back:
deadlift:
60kg x 12
100kg x 12
140kg x 6
180kg x 3
190kg x 3
200kg x 1 (just) drop to 180kg x 2, drop to 140kg x 6, 100kg x 6
chins:
bodyweight x 3 sets x 8
low pulley row:
180kg x 3 sets x 8
incline bench dumbell row (both arms)
25kg DB's x 3 sets x 8
overall not a bad workout but by no means as strong as i have been on back, usually my strongest bodypart. i think my form on deadlift has got a bit poor after not doing 1 RM for a while. wasnt using my legs enough. deep squatting on friday should hopefully help a bit for next week.
Shoulders:
seated barbell press:
40kg x 12
60kg x 8
70kg x 6
60kg x 6
smith machine press:
60kg x 3 sets x 8
lateral raises:
12.5kg x 3 sets x 8
rear delt raises:
12.5kg x 3 sets x 8
shrugs:
140kg x 3 sets x 8
arms tonight. cant wait!!
i have missed trianing arms with doing the split i have been for the last 6 weeks. took about 24 nitroceps and a sample of VPX shotgun before i went to the gym so was pumped up from turning the steering wheel on the way there.
anyway onto the workout:
starte with triceps as they are a lagging bodypart in my opinion:
Dips:
2 x bodyweight warm up
10kg added x 8
20kg x 6
20kg x 6
was quite disappointed as have got up to 40kg added on these in the past but am hoping to work back up to that pretty quickly.
Overhead dumbell extension:
i do them backwards on the preacher bench with my back against the pad.
45kg x 8
55kg x 6
55kg x 6
close grip smith machine bench (decline):
60kg x 3 x 10
Biceps:
rather than go heavy i like to make sure my style is good on biceps and do more isolation work.
seated DB curls:
did them backwards on the preacher bench with my upper arms pressed against the back of the pad:
10kg x 10 warm up
17.5kg DB's x 10
20kg DB's x 2 sets x 8
straight bar preacher curls:
30kg x 3 sets x 10
rope hammer curls:
dont know the weight x 3 sets x 12
by the end of the workout my arms were dead and incredibly full of blood. really enjoyed last nights workout.
Had my phd recovery afterwards and a shot of protein isolate in one of the tube shots. i love those, they're so easy to get down after a workout. Have a few more in my gym bag so will be having them tonight with legs.
Didnt manage to get my dinner until about 10pm due to a lot of messing around after the gym. I had 2 big chicken breasts and 2 packs of birds eye microwave veg. didnt feel i had enough calories so had 3 bananas and some ice cream at about 11pm. pharma blend at half 11 and off to bed.
Legs tonight! im going to try my luck at squats. the best ive ever managed was 2 with 140kg and 1 with 150kg. i want a full set of 5 with 140kg. after my abismal deadlifting i really need to get my squat to a bit more repectable level.
hi all. hope everyone had a good weekend.
last night trained chest. my friend was still back from london so he joined us. over the past 4 years we have been overtaking each other on bench press, i was the first to get 80kg, then he got 90kg, then i got the 100kg and so on. its always fun competing against him. at present i am stronger than him, ive done 130kg and up until last night he had only done 125kg so i was confident. how wrong i was. i officially hate dave tate! well no not really but he managed to put 15kg onto my friends bench press in one session!! i didnt exactly do badly (got the 125kg pretty easily) but then he went and did the 140kg!
all because of this:
BENCH PRESS TIPS
its fantastic and helped me but not as much as my friends lol.
the session went as follows:
bench press:
60kg x 20 warm up
100kg x 5
110kg x 5
120kg x 1
125kg x 1
100kg x 5
100kg x 5
incline DB press:
40kg x 3 x 8
flat flyes:
30kg x 3 x 6
wide grip dips:
bodyweight x 3 x 8
overall a very good fun session.
im not training tonight as i have to go to london. will post back on thursday.
-Adam-
Trained shoulders last night. went surprisingly well. i dont really like training shoulders and they are definately a lagging bodypart. was really tired after driving to london and back and didnt get much sleep the night before.
used a serving of PhD V-max pump before my workout and felt great. i was literally falling asleep at work but after the V-max i felt wide awake. felt full of energy and subsequently had a great workout. the berry flavour tasted fantastic as well. one thing i love about the v-max is the lip tingling from the BA is insane. felt like there were ants inside my face. really made me want to train.
the workout went as follows:
seated barbell press:
40kg warm up
60kg x 6
70kg x 6
75kg x 6 (new best)
smith machine press:
60kg x 3 x 10
lateral raises:
15kg x 3 x 8
rear delts on the cables:
3 sets of 12 reps
shrugs:
100kg x 10
140kg x 8
180kg x 8
180kg x 8 (had to use straps as didnt have chalk)
a quick phd recovery 2:1 then off home for chicken, chips and lots of fried eggs, Yum!!
Hi everyone. hope you all had a good weekend. Mine was incredibly boring except for a trip to the pictures and a nandos. Trained legs on friday which was rubbish as i keep setting myself targets and then not hitting them so i get annoyed with myself. anyway, the workout went as follows:
Squats: (wanted 5 with 130kg)
60kg warm up
100kg x 5
120kg x 5
130kg x 4 (DAMN!!)
120kg x 3, drop to 80kg x 8, drop to 60kg x 10
leg press:
250kg x 3 x 12
leg extensions:
forgot to look at weight x 3 x 15
leg curls x 3 sets
Calfs: workout created by James collier:
10 reps at maximum weight (2 second reps)
get out from under the stack and do 10 more reps on the step
step onto the floor and do 10 raises
back under the stack, half the weight, 10 reps
out of the stack, 10 reps on the step,
10 reps on the floor
back under the stack, half the weight again, 10 reps
out of the stack, 10 reps
on the floor, 10 reps
OUCH!!!
overall not a bad workout. my training partner was injured so couldnt train. it kinda threw me off a bit so i wasnt at maximum.
just chilled on friday night as i was too tired to do anything particularly productive.
Saturday morning went and trained arms before work. unfortunately my tendons from my bicep to forearm were absoloutely killing me. i dont know why but this happens every once in a while. i warmed them up as best i could but had to train really light. i decided to just blast through some supersets to get the session out of the way:
Dumbell curls supersetted with Dips x 3
macine preacher curls SS with decline close grip bench x 3
cable hammer curls SS with cable pushdowns x 3
Concentration curls SS with rope pushdowns x 3
got a good pump on but my tendons hurt so didnt feel too great about the workout.
Chest tonight and im determined to get the 130kg bench press. i Must get to the 140kg before i start cutting for the holiday!!
I DID IT!!
finally back up to benching my best. 130kg went up easily. its been a while since i was able to do that so i finally feel like im going in the right direction again.
the workout went as follows:
Bench press:
60kg warm up
80kg x 5
100kg x 5
120kg x 1
130kg x 1
100kg x 5
incline DB bench press:
40kg DB's x 3 x 8
flat flyes:
30kg DB's x 3 x 8
Cable crossovers:
4 x 12
had a great pump and am starting to feel like im putting some good size on. am over 96kg for the first time ever and am enjoying training.
Deadlift tonight so am hoping to keep the good run going and get some repectable deadlifting done.
Last night was back and had to be a quick session as i had places to be unfortunately. just a quick half hour session:
Deadlift:
60kg warm up
100kg x 10
140kg x 5
180kg x 5
180kg x 5
180kg x 5
chins:
2 x 8
1 x 30 reps (go to failure, rest, go again, rest go again until you get to 30)
low pulley row:
3 stes x 10 reps
and that was it. only a quick one and i would have like to do more but unfortunately didnt have time.
Hi everyone. had a great shoulder workout last night. am improving fast on shoulders since i stopped the UHT training and got a new PB on seated shoulder press last night. the workout was as follows:
Seated BB shoulder press:
40kg warm up
60kg x 6
70kg x 6
80kg x 6 (new PB)
smith machine press:
60kg x 3 x 8
lateral raises:
15kg DB's x 3 x 12
rear delt cables:
3 sets x 10
couldnt do shrugs as my traps were still in bits after deadlift on tuesday. will have to do them on saturday morning with arms.
Legs tonight and im determined to get to 5 with 130kg (been a goal for a few weeks). will let you all know if i manage it.
Have also been generously given a bottle of tauro test by anabolic designs. i will be reviewing this in a couple of weeks time after size on is finished (want to make sure it is unbiased results). hopefully my strength will improve further.
didnt manage to squat last night as my training partner was having head issues (brain haemmorage last year) so we just did leg press etc and blasted through it.
trained arms this morning and although i was feeling really sluggish on the way to the gym they let me plug my ipod into the sound system and i really got fired up.
i supersetted every exercise between biceps and triceps as i only had about 35 minutes to train. this was the routine:
incline dumbell curls supersetted with lying tricep DB extension:
did alternate arms without putting the weights down to keep constant contraction:
10 reps right, 10 reps left, 8 reps right, 8 reps left, 6 right, 6 left.
biceps and triceps were in agony after id done this circuit 3 times on each.
preacher curls supersetted with dip machine:
3 sets of 8 reps on each
hammer curls supersetted with rope pushdowns:
3 sets x 12 reps each
reverse grip durl supersetted with DB wrist curl:
3 sets x 15 reps each
was finished showered and into work within 40 minutes of starting. result.
overall i enjoyed the workout, was incredibly pumped and felt good. i feel i have put on some size since my pictures were taken. i definately feel better in myself.
enjoy the weekend everyone
trained chest last night and joshlarge joined me and my training partner for a session.
went really well. im nowhere near as strong as my trianing partner so a bit of healthy competition from josh really pushed me.
Bench press:
60kg warm up
100kg x 8
120kg x 4 (new record and 1 better than josh lol)
120kg x 3
100kg x 8
incline DB press:
40kg DB's x 3 sets x 8
incline flyes:
25kg DB's - 10, 8, 8
cable crossovers:
3 sets x 10 reps
great pump and thoroughly enjoyed the workout.
Hi all. trained back last night and finally started deadlifting heavy again. ive been doing proper deadlifting for a while (stop after each rep, reset and lift) but thought last night id just go for it, give it a proper bang on the floor and scream it up lol. had to use straps as my grip wasnt there last night but got the reps. workout went as follows:
Deadlift:
60kg warm up
100kg x 8
140kg x 10
180kg x 10
200kg x 4 (yeeeeeeeah buddy)
Chins:
3 sets x 10 reps
1 arm cable row:
3 sets x 10 reps each arm
DB row, both arms:
25kg DB's x 3 sets x 10 reps (leant on bench so no swing)
really enjoyed the workout and back felt very pumped. had to stop deads after the 200kg as my back was ready to break. i was happy to be back up to over 200kg on deads so feel great.
hi everyone. hope you all had a good weekend. glad to see everyone progressing and enjoying the challenge thus far. we have about 38 entrants at the closing day so it will be a tough competition but there are plenty of guys (and girls) that i think have a very good shot of winning.
my weekend was nice and relaxing (finally had a weekend where i didnt come into work). went out on saturday night which was a mistake as far as trianing was concerned because my diet on sunday was APPALLING. although i got some bacon froma butchers and had the best bacon sandwich ever. anyway, i trained on saturday morning and really went for it. ive trained arms on my own the past few weeks before work so i spent over an hour in the gym on sat morning destroying every part of my arms. heres the routine:
Dips:
warm up with bodyweight 3 sets
30kg added x 8
35kg added x 6
30kg x 6, drop to 15kg x 6, drop to bodyweight x 20
(my training partner weighs 100kg and managed 6 with an additional 100kg, made me look like a big girls blouse lol)
Dumbell extensions:
55kg x 6
60kg x 5
60kg x 3
lying alternate dumbell extensions:
(lying down hold both arms above your head with your tris tensed. do 10 reps right arm, then 10 with left, 8 right, 8 left, 6 right, 6 left. all the while you keep the non-working arm held straight above your head, IT BURNS!!!
i did 3 sets with the 7.5kg DB's.
biceps:
same as final tricep exercise but with dumbell curls:
3 sets 15kg DB's
cable curls:
3 x 10 reps
hammer curls:
3 x 8, 15kg DB's
arms were PUMPED!!
im feeling it today. my triceps are in agony so bench press tonight i imagine will be rubbish to say the least.
got to eat a bit better today so am going to cram some food in me to try and recover some strength for benching tonight.
Hi everyone. some of you may be aware that me and joshlarge have a small competition going on on bench press. last week i beat him by one rep. i am ashamed to say that last night he beat me by 1
happily though it was a great workout and machine gave me something to aim for on flyes that i havent done before (i do love some friendly competition).
so here was the workout (including 2 new PBS)
Bench press:
warm up at 60kg
100kg x 4
120kg x 5 (NEW PB)
120kg x 3 (josh got 4)
130kg x 2 (NEW PB) drop to 100kg x 4, drop to 60kg x 10
flat flyes:
25kg DB's x 10
30kg DB's x 8 (felt easy)
35kg DB's x 8 (bring it on machine)
incline Bench press (nice and light with a pause at the top and bottom:
60kg x 3 sets x 12 reps
wanted to do cables but it was taken and my chest felt pretty battered anyway.
went home and had my favourite dinner, FAJITAS. gotta love em.
hope everyone is progressing well in the comp.
deadlift tonight so will keep you all posted. my goal is to move the 220kg.
Hi all. I am in a good mood today. i am finally back to my best on my favourite exercise, deadlift.
my strength has been progressing steadily over the past few weeks as my diet and trianing have been consistent for a good while. i got a new PB on bench on monday and was looking forward to deadlift last night. my goal was to move the 220kg as i had got 4 with 200kg last week. Here is how the session went:
Deadlift:
60kg warm up
100kg x 8
140kg x 8
180kg x 4
220kg x 2 (NEW PB!)
140kg x 8
chins:
3 x 10 with bodyweight
1 arm cable rows:
3 x 10 each arm
back felt pumped and i felt strong for the first time in a while. had a shaky start to the session as my training partners strap snapped on 250kg deadlift second rep. that was scary.
My back is now in agony so i know i trained hard.
My only far now is that i have finally got back to where i was strength wise at my best, and in a few weeks i will be dieting and i will lose all of this hard earned strength
What do i do??
im actually considering going on holiday with a bit of flab. is strength more important than a tanned, ripped, herculean physique? tough decision.
i decided yesterday that i am NOT going to diet for my holiday. i currently weigh 97kg (most ive ever weighed before is 95kg) so i want to reach the big 100kg. i have always wanted to reach 100kg and now that i am so close i dont want to lose a stone.
MASS!!!!!
quick update. hope you all had a good weekend.
legs was on friday. 1 set nearly killed me. 50 reps should never be done again.
Leg press:
80kg warm up x 2
120kg x 20
160kg x 20
200kg x 20
240kg x 12, drop to 160kg x 15, stay at 160kg x 8, drop to 80kg x 15
OOOWWWWW
leg extensions:
3 x 12 reps
leg curls:
3 x 12 reps
calfs
overall not a bad workout. taking a break from squats as my back cant handle the strain of deads and squats.
Arms:
Dips (parallel bar, not between benches, thats cheating)
2 x bodyweight warm up
30kg added x 10
35kg added x 8
35kg added x 8
DB extensions:
60kg x 6
60kg x 4
60kg x 3
lying alternate arm DB extensions:
10kg DB's: 10 left, 10 right, 8 L, 8 R, 6 L, 6 R
repeat twice
DB curls:
15kg DB's (same as last tricep exercise)
Cable close grip barbell curls:
3 x 8
and that was it.
Had the most chilled out weekend ever!! had th house to myself all weekend so pushed the settee and 2 armchairs together in front of the TV, got all the duvets and pillows in the house and created what i like to call the "comfort dome". Got chris from monster round and we just watched films, played Xbox and ate all day on sunday. cant beat a lazy day.
Everyone. i am happy to report that I am now a proud memeber of the 140 club!!!
Did bench press last night and was feeling realy refreshed after a lazy weekend so was definately ready to give it a go. considering my 1 rep max only 1 month ago was 125kg i wasnt expecting to be able to do this. However my training and diet has been fantastic for this last month. ive just finished size on and started taking tauro test on friday, which has had some great reports in strength gain.
so here was the workout:
Bench press:
60kg warm up x 2
100kg x 3
120kg x 1
130kg x 1
140kg x 1 (NEW PB!!!! went up really easily. i think i could have done 145)
100kg x 10 x 2 sets
incline bench press:
went light and really slow controlled reps:
60kg x 3 x 12
incline flyes:
30kg DB's x 6
25kg x 8
25kg x 8
cable crossovers:
3 x 12 reps
i was veeery happy with the session so am in a very good mood tonight. lets see how deadlift goes tonight. hopefully a new PB on the table. going to go for 3 with 220kg as 2 reps is the best ive ever done.
again today is a good day. i feel great and am very happy with the way my training is going.
last night did deadlifts and i beat my all time best and managed to pull 3 reps with 220kg!!
after the first rep i thought i wouldnt get the second, but somehow i managed to pull it up. once id got the second i just thought f**k it im going for a 3rd. although it was a painful looking rep i managed it.
heres how the workout looked:
Deadlift:
60kg warm up
100kg x 8
140kg x 8
180kg x 4
220kg x 3 (NEW PB)
140kg x 8
chins:
10, 8, 6 with bodyweight
close grip pulldown:
3 x 12 reps
wide grip pulldown:
2 pyramid sets, doing 4 reps going up the stack and then drop right down and do 12
i then did some calfs as i really need tobe doing them twice per week.
I'm going to go out on a limb and credit much of my strength gains to a supplement called Tauro test by anabolic designs. i started taking it on friday and the following week i have 2 new PB's in big lifts that ive not really progressed massively in over the last year. I feel fantastic in myself and have the feeling of really wanting to train.
Tauro test is a powerful test booster, anti-estrogen and boosts secretion of growth hormone. i can tell my test is up and im sleeping far better which i would pu down to the growth hormone.
I'll do a proper review of the product in 4 weeks when its finished but just wanted to say if you want something with immediate gains then i would definately recommend Tauro test.
http://www.esupplements.co.uk/images/Anabolic.Designs.Tauro.jpg (http://monstersupplements.com/store/p/4186/1/Anabolic-Designs-Tauro-Test--180-Capsules.html)
Nutritional Breakdown for: Anabolic Designs Tauro Test 180 Capsules
Amount Per Daily Seving (6 Capsules)
Testobullism TM Testosterone Amplification Matrix 1,800mg
- Long Jack
- Fenugreek Extract
- Horney Goat Weed
- Methoxyflavone
- 3,4-divanillyltetrahydrofuran
Secretrophin TM GH Inducing Blend 900mg
- Alpha GPC
- Macuna Pruriens
cAMP Agonists 2,000mcg
- cAMP
Estocut TM Estrogen Modulation Matrix 600mg
- I-3-C
- White Button Mushroom
- Reveratrol (50%)
TauroDrive TM Delivery System Matrix 140mg
- Black Pepper Extract
- Ginger Root (5% gingerols)
- Cayenne powder
- Vitamin B-6
- Zinc Chelate
from next week i wont be deadlifting or benching heavy as it has taken its toll and im happy about the new PB. going to train more for size than strength now so will be hitting the back with heavy rows instead.
Well the days of heavy benching are gone. I have gone back to reps and normal benching style to hit the pecs rather then powerlifting style to move more weight.
The workout went as follows:
Bench press:
100kg - 10,8,6,6
incline DB bench:
35kg DB's x 3 x 8
incline flyes:
25kg DB's x 3 x 8
Pec deck
pyramid set x 2 (4 reps going up the weight and then 6's on the way back down)
overall a good workout. am not deadlifting tonight so going back to barbell row.
Will let you know how i get on tomorrow.
LewisR
01-04-2010, 02:43 PM
About that No Explode mate ive still got half a tub from 3 years ago lol , must be at least a year out of date , what did you find with it? , when i used it a few times i felt very energy responsive when i was lifting, but pump wise ? i probably wouldnt notice that anyway lol
dont use it if its that out fo date dude. you will notice a pump if you follow the arm workout in the videos lol. id recommend it, buy a new tub and let me know how you get on.
LewisR
01-04-2010, 02:59 PM
Oh lol i thought it wouldnt matter as its just like powder ! thanks tho ill get a new one soon
Hi all. sorry its been a while since my last post. its been very busy here so have struggled to get time to post my progress.
Training has swapped round quite a bit and im not lifting heavy any more. my training partner has started the dieting for the holiday so we are training at higher intensities so heavy weights are out the window. Im enjoying the new trianing as it allows me to focus on the muscle rather than my ego.
Did legs the other day and nearly killed me. did 4 sets heavy of 20 reps on leg press and then did a set of 100 reps on a stack leg press. im now walking like a 120 year old woman lol.
trained arms on saturday and that was also very good. still managed to rep the 30kg dumbells for 7 each arm on seated DB curls so was happy with that.
Did a new training video on saturday morning for chest but Josh our camera man breathed into the microphone throughout the whole thing lol so we may have to do it again. i havent heard it properly yet.
Doing chest tonight so will let everyone know how its going.
hope everyone is still enjoying the body challenge, the forum and life in general. spirits seem to be high around here so im happy. ill be doing another 5 weeks of mass buidling and then swap my trianing and diet around to try and strip a bit of fat. i know i said i wouldnt diet but i change my mind every day. im quite looking forward to being fit again so thats a big reson im doing it. plus my dad wants to lose some weight so i said id do an hours cycling every morning with him to help him out. i wont be doing keto diet but jsut cut out unneccessary calories and lower my carbs slightly. maybe 300g protein, 150g carbs, 50g fats.
Was given a tub of stampede last week as well. i would like to update my review.
the sample i tried must have been 1 scoop as i had 2 scoops of this last week and i can honestly say this is THE BEST pre-workout supplement i have used since white flood. i felt like i wanted to train until i died. my face was tingling like mad and i was pumped up like never before. there wasnt a crazy caffeine buzz, i jsut felt energised. its hard to explain but i will re-review it and give it 10/10!!!
ill post up tomorrow after chest.
-AC-
decided to change things round a bit last night. Because my training partner is dieting and needs to burn more calories i decided that all this isolation stuff jsut wasnt going to help him enough. so onto the big calorie busting movements. it will help me to get used to these different exercises as i start dieting from 4 weeks on monday. i was doing low reps but he was doing sets of 20.
shoulders:
Clean and press:
warm up with bar:
60kg x 6
70kg x 4
80kg x 3
90kg x 2 (NEW PB) drop to 60kg x 6
standing 1 arm dumbell press:
25kg Dumbells x 3 x 12
upright rows:
3 x 12 reps
shrugs:
120kg x 4 x 20 reps
i was sweating like mad by the end of it and my trianing partner was nearly dead (on less than 100g carbs per day and had already done 40 mins cardio lol).
Did chest last night.
wiped myself out with a warm up on the 40g 100 rep challenge. managed 1 min 35 seconds!! trianing partner did 50 seconds!!
heres the rest of the routine:
incline bench:
80kg x 10
80kg x 8
60kg x 12 really slow
pec deck:
3 x 12
cable crossovers:
4 x 10
chest press machine:
3 x 10
calfs
was a bit of an erretic workout as the gym was PACKED so couldnt do anything we wanted to.
oooh well.
Gazroth
29-04-2010, 03:18 AM
Hi Adam,
this is great reading thanks. I am a bit of a new guy to all the strength and max lift stuff. I take it the max lifts at the start are one rep lifts? Also, do you have to wear straps to deadlift 220kg?
Please keep it up as i am hooked.
Gaz
yes they are all 1 rep maxes except the deadlift. i have done 3 with 220kg and my bench is now 140kg max. no i had to use straps. the most ive done without strpas is 200kg for a few reps. i could probably do 1 with 220kg without but my grip needs work to rep it.
this has reminded me i need to post actually lol.
sorry about the lack of posts this week. i have been covering another guys work so am very behind.
monday: chest
incline barbell:
1 x warm up
3 x 10 x 80kg
flat flyes:
3 x 15 x 25kg
incline dumbell:
30kg x 3 x 10
cable crossovers:
4 x 12 reps
tuesday was back and i had to blast through it quickly as i had somewhere to be afterwards. i tried high rope pulleys which were cool and id recommend them for a finishing exercise.
I start cardio on monday and my training will change intensity so i will keep you all posted as to how that goes. my diet will be much the same but slightly increase the fats and lower the unneccessary carbs. ill also cut out any crap but i am by no means dieting like everyone else. i may decide to do so after a few weeks out but for now ill jsut be increasing CV and see how i go.
I am now dieting. so long mass building!! please follow my diet progress on this thread:
http://fitforum.co.uk/showthread.php?842-Get-ripped-or-die-trying!!&p=3691#post3691
thanks everyone
SEW91
10-05-2010, 05:53 PM
Hey AC just wondering do u use myofusion in your mega shake?
also what do you think about using pharma whey and waxy vol pre workout?
Thanks
no i use pharma whey choc mint. it is thinner than myofusion so doesnt make the mega shake too stodgy. that would be a great pre-workout shake.
JoshLarge
12-05-2010, 08:13 AM
Hey AC just wondering do u use myofusion in your mega shake?
also what do you think about using pharma whey and waxy vol pre workout?
Thanks
Would be a good pre workout shake as AC mentioned but id add in 15-20g of Extra Virgin Olive oil too.
SEW91
12-05-2010, 12:17 PM
Hey AC i will be following something similar to your mass gain diet in a bit, i was wondering why dont you use myofusion and waxy vol pre workout? also how many calories is your diet?
i weigh about 140lb and i have been eating about 1500 kcal to tone up a bit, but now i plan on adding mass. Im planning to eat about 2500-3000 kcal a day for this, is it a good amout?
Id also like to try out the mega shake, but it has too many calories for one meal, what would you suggest i should do?
Thanks in advance
if i were you i would eat 1000 calories more than you think you should. if you are a hard gainer then you may struggle to add weight. make sure all calories ceom from the right sources. mainly protein, then low GI carbs, then essential fats. no high GI carbs except after trianing and no bad fats. i dont use myofusion and waxy vol pre-trianing at the moment because i like ameal before training.
SEW91
12-05-2010, 03:01 PM
Cheers AC. The thing is im unsure about how much calories i should eat to gain mass, how could i find this out? then after i find out i could add another 1000 kcal to it.
im also thinking about using recovery 2:1 post workout, would this cover all the high G.I carbs that i need?
Thanks
TJLEE
12-05-2010, 03:11 PM
Hey SEW91,
Each individual is different and unfortunately there is no exact formula for the amount of calories you should consume, only rough ideas. You should keep a really detailed food diary, listing all foods and their nutritional value, keep consistent throughout the week and then see what you weigh after a week. If you have stayed the same or lost, then up the food values or reduce cardio (if you are doing it). So it is a bit trial and error!
^^ great answer.
and i LOVE the recovery 2:1 so yes that would cover your high GI carbs.
SEW91
12-05-2010, 03:44 PM
Ok thanks guys, ill give it a go and keep you updated
Thanks again
OK i was laid awake last night planning my mass gain so i thought id share it with you.
my number one inspiration is numerouno. his planning of his meals etc has put me to shame and shown me why i wasnt gaining as much as i could in the past. meticulous planning will be the forefront of my plans from now on. my gf is going to uni so i will have very little to do with myself on a night after the gym lol so this time will be spent cooking.
whilst on this diet i have been pre-cooking a few chicken breasts in cajun spices etc and bringing them to work in tupperware tubs. its really nice and i thought to myself, why have i never done this before but with some rice etc for mass gaining? so every other night i will cook 4 chicken breasts in all the nice spices etc and every morning make a big bowl of white rice. this will give me 2 of my daily meals. my plan is to also have all of my supplements at home and about 10 shakers. every morning i will put the powders i need for the day ready in the shakers. then every night i will wash them all ready for the morning. this will allow me to be far more regimented. i will also be having a mega shake EVERY morning without fail.
big shops at makro will be needed regularly but im sure i can handle that.
the supplements i will be taking are:
gaspari real mass - staple protein shake
BSN syntha 6 - bedtime
phd recovery 2:1 - post workout
garnell complex carbs - pure maltodextrin will be put in every shake
protein bars - ill get an assortment, probably mainly trioplex cookies lol.
EFA's - need more fats in my diet
gaspari anavite - i love this product and will have a multivitamin as a staple part of my stack from now on
i may also get size on max performance but im not sure as of yet.
so my diet will hopefully be as follows:
7:30AM - Monster mega shake
9:30AM - 4 slices wholemeal toast
10:00AM - gaspari real mass + 50g maltodextrin
11:45AM - 250g rice + 1 tin tuna
1:30PM - gaspari real mass + 50g maltodextrin
2:30PM - peak body pro 50 + 5 slices seeded wholemeal bread
3:30PM - 250g white rice + 1.5 chicken breasts + olive oil and mixed peppers
5:00PM - PhD Recovery 2:1 + 5 slices seeded wholegrain bread
6:15PM - Train
7:15PM - PhD recovery 2:1 + 50g Maltodextrin
8:30PM - 250g white rice + 1.5 chicken breasts + olive oil and mixed peppers (or some other meat)
10:00PM - BSN syntha 6 + olive oil + whatever treat i want like chocolate bar etc
i cant be bothered to work out the macros but i think it is somewhere in the region of 400g protein, 800g carbs and 100g fats. it will be somewhere near 6000 calories.
this diet will take a LOT of preperation every day and i have to simply stay focused in order to do it. i cant jsut think, oh i cant be bothered to make the food today it will be alright. that attitude is why i havent achieved my goals in the past. my goal is to reach 100kg by christmas.
my training hopefully will be back to basics for a while. after reading the article in the thread below i really want to try it:
http://fitforum.co.uk/showthread.php...=7005#post7005
so my routine will be as follows:
monday:
squats - 5 x 5
stiff leg deadlift - 3 x 8
barbell row - 5 x 5
chins - 3 x 8
barbell curls - 5 x 8
tuesday:
bench press - 5 x 5
incline flyes - 3 x 8
standing military press - 5 x 5
seated dumbell press - 3 x 8
weighted dips - 5 x 5
wednesday: rest
thursday:
leg press - 5 x 5
smith machine lunges - 3 x 8
deadlift - 5 x 5
close grip chins - 3 x 8
standing hammer curls - 5 x 5
friday:
inlcine bench press - 5 x 5
flat flyes - 3 x 8
seated barbell shoulder press - 5 x 5
heavy lat raises - 3 x 8
skullcrushers - 5 x 5
on saturday i would train calfs, traps and abs.
i will most likely train calfs, forearms and some other stuff on a wednesday as well.
my best lifts are as follows:
deadlift - 220kg x 3 reps
bench press - 140kg x 1
squat - 150kg x 1
i would like to be able to
deadlift 1 x 250kg
bench press 1 x 150kg
squat 1 x 170kg
these are also my goals by xmas. i believe with this workout it is possible. i would also like to be able to overhead press 100kg.
as i said above my goal bodyweight is 100kg. i currently weigh 92.5kg but am dieting heavily so that will most likey go down to about 91kg by next week. after the holiday i will have a few days of rest then i will buy all of my supplements, my food and ill go crazy.
let me know everyone if they think i should change anything as advice is very welcome. my goal is a dirty bulk btw and im not bothered about fat gain in the slightest. infact a bit of fat would be nice.
ok i have a new workout that i am going to do for my mass gaining. rather than the 2 day split (which looks really fun) im going to do a 3 day split but performed 5 times a week. its a bit complicated so ill try and explain as best as possible.
workout 1 - chest and triceps
workout 2 - back and shoulders
workout 3 - legs and biceps
my training week will look like this:
monday - W1
tuesday - W2
wednesday off
thursday - W3
Friday - W1
saturday - W2
sunday off
monday - W3
tuesday - W1
............................. and so on following that pattern
I will have wednesday and sunday as rest days. this allows for bodyparts to be trained twice per week. every 3 weeks one of the workouts will only be trained once. as you can see on week 2 W3 will be trained twice but W2 will be only trained once. this allows for maximum muscle stimulation twice per week (every 4 days). this will allow for maximum recovery but muscle stimulus more regularly. if you train a muscle group on a monday, by thursday it will normally be fine to train again, but you dont, you leave it fully recovered and doing nothing for another 4 days. whats the point. that muscle could be growing in those 4 days but its not as its had no stimulus. This plan is the perfect combat to that.
so the workouts must tie in the bodyparts. normally if training a bodypart once per week i would do maybe 5 exercises of 3 sets per bodypart. due to training each part every 4 days this is not necessary. the workout will be as follows:
W1: chest and triceps
flat bench press - 5 x 5
incline dumbell press 3 x 8
cable flyes - 3 x 8
weighted dips - 5 x 5
cable pushdowns - 3 x 8
W2: Back and shoulders
Barbell row - 5 x 5
Chins - 4 x 8
heavy shrugs - 3 x 8
standing barbell press - 5 x 5
heavy lateral raise - 3 x 8
W3: legs and biceps
squats - 5 x 5
smith machine lunges - 3 x 8
leg extensions - 3 x 8
standing barbell curls - 5 x 5
seated hammer curls - 3 x 8
calfs are important as these need to be improved so i will most likely train these after what turns out to be the shortest workout (as of yet am unsure). because we are not going to failure on any set except the last intensity will be kept high. weights will not be increased each set but rather a weight will be chosen (for example 100kg on bench press), then when 5 sets of 5 reps can be achieved i will increase the weight. then if i fail at say 3 reps on the final set i will stick at that weight until the full 5 x 5 is accomplished. no forced reps either. i am going to keep a trianing diary and write down EVERY single rep i perform. this will keep me on track and also keep me motivated to not have a half arsed workout at all.
i will change the exercises every 6 weeks but keep the principles the same and keep them heavy compound. for example i will take out squats and do deadlifts on back day. i may swap flat bench to incline barbell bench on chest etc.
i have high hopes for this routine and think my strength will improve quickly. as i have been dieting my strength has fallen rapidly so i would like to get back to where i was where strength is concerned. my diet was posted in my last blog entry.
So im mass gaining. the joys of it all. i am LOVING training and HATING the diet!!
so far training has been great. stuck to the plan and kept a log of both sessions so far. they went as follows:
monday - chest + triceps
bench press - 90kg - 5x5
incline bench press - 70kg - 3x8
cable crossovers - 40kg each side - 3 x 8
dips - +15kg - 5 x 5
tricep pushdowns - 45kg - 3x8
tuesday - back and shoulders
barbell row - 100kg - 5x5
chins - bodyweight - 4 x 8
shrugs - 130kg - 4 x 8
standing barbell press - 50kg - 5 x 5
lateral raises - 15kg DB's - 3 x 8
had wednesday off and saw toy story 3
tonight is legs and biceps and then back to the beginning again on friday. going to increase the bench presses by 5kg each so we'll see if i get the full amount of reps again.
the diet isnt going well. i jsut cant eat. im having over 3000 calories but its very hard work. im force feeding myself and trying to fit in more meals but i jsut feel sick all the time. i have to find a way to overcome this. i know for a fact that its all in my head because when i dont think about the fact that im eating loads and feel sick miraculously the sick feeling goes away and im hungry. its jsut a mental block that i have to get over. i might try hypnosis lol.
ill keep you all updated.
ps. i lost about 7lbs on holiday and my bodyfat went up 3% meaning i lost pure muscle but didnt add any fat lol. when i got back i was 91kg. before i left i was around 94. weighed yesterday and i was 92.5kg so im going in the right direction again.
last thursday i tried to do legs for the first time in a long while and lets jsut say it didnt go well. i did 3 sets of squats with 100kg (ass to grass) and then literally everything went into cramp. my ass, hams and quads were in agony and i couldnt walk. it didnt ease up until bedtime. needless to say i wasnt walking right for a few days. trained legs again last night and got through the session but had to keep it a bit light. heres the workout:
squats - 80kg - 5 x 5
smith machine lunges - 20kg - 8, 5, 4 (they're a LOT harder than they look lol)
leg extensions - 75kg - 3 x 8 (my quads were shaking violently by this time
bicep preacher machine - stack 8 - 5 x 5
seated hammer curls - 20kg DB's - 3 x 8
my strength is going up on everything and im really enjoying back and shoulders day.
going to up my bench press to 100kg tonight so we'll see if i can make the 5 x 5.
eating over the weekend was terrible as i felt ill and threw up a couple of times. yesterdays eating was better and i was around 4000 calories. my appetite increases as the day goes on. last night alone after the gym i reckon i had around 2000 calories. i jsut need to increase my appetite before the gym.
Edd_123
03-08-2010, 10:25 AM
good to see you back in here AC, i think you could really do with this though lol https://www.getxl.com/store/myweb.php?hls=1083&id=59
youve showed me that before lol. i actually looked into buying it lol. then i contemplated some good old GHRP-6 lol!!
Edd_123
03-08-2010, 10:37 AM
surely it won't actually work??
what the stupid supplement or GHRP-6? i am sceptical about that supplement as a physiological answer to appetite but psychologically i think it would work. all depends on how much you believe in it.
Edd_123
03-08-2010, 11:28 AM
always find a 10 minute walk stimulates my appetite, burns a few cals but defo works
Had a really good session last night. everything was improving weight-wise and im starting to feel slightly strong again.
heres the workout:
bench press - 100kg - 5 x 5
incline bench press - 85kg - 8, 6, 4
cable crossovers - 50kg each side - 8, 8, 7
dips - +20kg - 5 x 5
cable pushdowns - 55kg - 3 x 8
ill increase the weight of bench press, dips and pushdowns next time but leave incline bench and cables the same until i can do 3 x 8 with those weights.
im playing touch rugby tonight with work so ill see if any of my fitness has remained from the pre-holiday cardio lol. im thinking most likely not!!
numerouno
04-08-2010, 09:33 AM
Great lifting, I can't believe you jumped from benching 90kg last week to 130kg this week! Whats the aim next week 170!? I didn't think you were doing deadlifting in your new routine, after i mentioned you HAD to include you shot me down over that saying it wasn't necessary when doing squats twice a week?
96kg is impressive to you are ahead of me already :(
Machine
04-08-2010, 09:38 AM
ok i cant keep up with numeros numbers. adam says he did 100kg bench numero commented on his 130kg bench. hummmmmm i think numero is going mental. looking forward to being back in the 140 club adam?
yeah i dont know what numero is on about either lol. he must be looking at a post from before my cut lol. back in the good old days when i was in the 140 club lol. and no numero im sticking by my no deadlifting when squatting twice per week rule lol.
hows your strength at the moment machine? am i far off the master?
numerouno
04-08-2010, 09:54 AM
4 8 15 16 23 42
numerouno
04-08-2010, 10:00 AM
4 8 15 16 23 42
numerouno
04-08-2010, 10:19 AM
I have decided i MUST enter the numbers "4 8 15 16 23 42" into the forum every 108 minutes, or else AC will not grow...
keep it up my man i need all the help i can get.
So when are we going to put the three of you in a room to have a bench and squat off? Could be good fun - a day of shop talk, lots of Iron, and general Fit forum'ness?
im going to arrang a fitforum trip to nandos one of these days. theres a nandos in hull with a 24 hour gym next door!!
lukeypic
04-08-2010, 11:14 AM
excellent idea, perfection to be honest.. had a nandos last night. whole chicken, chips, and chicken pitta. it was looooovely!
numerouno
04-08-2010, 11:17 AM
I don't know which post I was reading, i blame the lack of sleep from that damned Black Powder. I used to play abit of touch rugby last summer, I remember having the worst lactic acid build up all over my body afterwards, aching like never before!
I thought it was a bit weird you'd increased you weights so much so quickly!! I think a meetup at bodypower next year will be the most realistic opportunityb for most of us :)
TJLEE
04-08-2010, 11:18 AM
Would the Nandos be a pre-workout or post-workout supplement. Or even a during workout supplement, chewing on a chicken wing as your benching, now theres a plan!
Machine
04-08-2010, 11:37 AM
That would be awesome. thanks for the lotto numbers numero i will be buying a ticket on sat with those lol. my strength is pretty much the same as pre cut. i can rep 130 x2 and can one rep 140 with a tiny bit of spotting so nearly there bud. we do need a fit forum weekend tho. oh and when i sort this years paintball your all invited.
the day would be gym 2 hours, nandos 1 hour, cinema 2 hours (on the other side of nandos, we're seeing the expendables btw), train another 2 hours, nandos 2 hours, massage 1 hour (next to the cinema). i love st stephens shopping centre lol.
im running the monster stand at bodypower next year so i expect to see ALL of you there!!
machine if you can get paintball sorted that would be ace.
numerouno
04-08-2010, 12:00 PM
That sounds like my perfect day, sadly Hull is just a bit too far!
Free bodypower ticket for 1,000,000 posts :)
Machine, ow great, superior, and all powerful leader of the brotherhood
...can I have an invite to paint ball day??
>>> Are there any other body power events coming up in the next few months?
no just one bodypower per year unfortunately.
i like how my mass gaining journal has been hijacked!!! lol
no just one bodypower per year unfortunately.
i like how my mass gaining journal has been hijacked!!! lol
TJLEE
04-08-2010, 01:01 PM
the day would be gym 2 hours, nandos 1 hour, cinema 2 hours (on the other side of nandos, we're seeing the expendables btw), train another 2 hours, nandos 2 hours, massage 1 hour (next to the cinema). i love st stephens shopping centre lol.
im running the monster stand at bodypower next year so i expect to see ALL of you there!!
machine if you can get paintball sorted that would be ace.
OK Adam seen as though its you, I would be prepared to make a guest appearance on the stand for an hours signing session of the MS brochure!!!! As long as I can have a tight fitting monster t-shirt (black one) you have a deal!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHA
ok training last night went really well. improved on all lifts so was happy. it went as follows:
barbell row - 110kg - 5 x 5
chins - +10KG - 8, 7, 5, 5 (never been able to do weighted chins before last week so plus 10kg is great for me)
shrugs - 160kg - 4 x 8
behind neck shoulder press - 65kg - 5 x 5
lateral raises - 20kg DB's - 3 x 8
im enjoying the press behind the neck. it hits the shoulder completely differently to doing it from the front and it feels like a more natural movement. my training partners arms are too short to do it properly lol so he has to do it from the front. although he did 5 x 5 with 110kg so i cant really laugh at him.
TJLEE
06-08-2010, 08:06 AM
Good stuff AC, must feel good to start going heavy again!
That explains why I was struggling with the behind the neck press this morning (using a machine) as I too have short arms! It made the position feel uncomfortable!!!! Oh well.
numerouno
06-08-2010, 08:14 AM
Know what you mean about the press behind neck, I always worry the bar was going to rip my face off going in front it'd get that close! I love barbell shoulder press as found my weights would increase dramatically real quick. Its one exercise you need a good spotter for to go heavy. I used an machine last night training shoulders which has independent arms you add free weights to, worked the shoulders really well I found.
Nice rows and shrugs you blitzing me on those poundages (at moment!). Looks like the AC is coming back into form, i was worrying you'd burnt out too young & lost it!
thanks for the support guys :)
the shrugs were a nightmare as i had to practically deadlift them each time to begin with and my back was knackered lol.
trained legs on friday and these went really well. managed 80kg on deep squats last week due to very tight hamstrings. much improved this week:
squats - 100kg - 5 x 5
smith lunges - 20kg - 3 x 8
leg extensions - 80kg - 3 x 8
preacher curl machine - stack 9 - 5 x 5
seated hammer curls - 22.5kg DB's - 3 x 8
on saturday morning i couldnt train at my gym as it was shut so i had to go elsewhere and they didnt have the machines i needed so couldnt do incline press or dips. their stacks were weird as well. i got 5 x 5 with 105kg on bench press so im getting there. my goal is 5 x 5 with 120kg which will be better then ive ever managed in the past.
got back and shoulders to do tonight so its time to try and get 70kg above my head. rows with 120kg and shrugs with 180kg should be fun lol.
numerouno
09-08-2010, 11:33 AM
Shrugs with 180, your going to end up looking like Mr Tickle! Good lifts there bro after such a short time back on it. 120kg for 5x5 on bench is a good aim, thats where i'd like to be at to, I was benching 110 for 5x5 on Saturday but keep get annoying sticking points on the way up.
Glenn
09-08-2010, 11:50 AM
Looks lke you are getting right back into the swing of things with your training now, good stuff.
smith lunges - 20kg - 3 x 8
I never use the smith machine, how do you get on with it for lunges? Any problems with the restricted movement forward/backward?
i keep my feet about a foot behind the bar then stretch out as far forward as possible. this really stretches the hamstring etc. i really like them. although they are horrendously agonising on your hams and ass
warren1987
09-08-2010, 02:12 PM
end up looking like Mr Tickle!
You rang???
Ok ive decided to change some things round.
my diet is not going well.
im full ALL the time and struggle to eat. im also losing weight!!
now i have a feeling my body hates carbs. when i was dieting with no carbs i felt pretty good, my weight generally stayed the same and i was hungry ALL the time. therefore if i can maintain weight with no carbs but lose weight with over 500g carbs then clearly carbs are not useful for me to bulk.
i am going to therefore have a high protein, high fat diet with moderate to low carbs.
the issue is i am completely stumped for ideas on high calorie meals that arent full of carbs.
any ideas guys?
PEANUT BUTTER .. by the 600g Jar...... There is 3000kcals for you ..... and all you need is a spoon! Nom nom nom
..Sorry I am having full on 110% sexual food cravings.. it started with that article about Haribo earlier, its only getting worse. Ive nearlly chewed off the top to my sports bottle at work im that hungry ... I feel like baby teething!
i could not hate peanut butter more lol. i dont like that, cheese of any kind, cream, or most other things that you may recommend. HA!! im soooo picky.
You should get yourself an old fashioned cheese toastie maker..
Butter 2 slices of bread, cover one side in thick cut cheese, draw a deep ketchup box, crack an egg in the midgle, put the top piece of buttered bread on, and cook. In the three minutes the egg will cook ... there has got to be 500 kcals there at least.... and its quick, simple, and has no mess!!! You could even add in chicken slices etc
Thats got to be a good basis for bulking!!!!!!
Edd_123
09-08-2010, 05:12 PM
get using that olive oil ac, and ive found lean mince is a good source of protein and fat
started using olive oil in all my shakes again last week. just bought some nice unlean mince from asda so thats 35g fat per serving with 40g protein. cant go wrong with that.
How did your baking session go AC?
im doing the mince tonight. last night i cooked:
8 chicken breasts
red pepper
yellow pepper
2 x spicy chili peppers
chili sauce
onion
bit of garlic
cajun chicken spice
in a stir fry. i did about 300g of white rice and split the lot into 4 meals to last me the rest of the week for my afternoon lunch.
i havent had any yet and it may be a little too hot lol.
had a great workout last night:
barbell row - 120kg - 5 x 5
chins - +10kg - 4 x 8 (im soooo happy about this)
shrugs - 180kg - 3 x 8
behind neck barbell press - 70kg - 5 x 5 (caught one badly on the top of my neck and cut my neck pretty bad lol. started to get very sore
didnt do lat raises as i had run out of time. this workout is taking longer and longer with the increase of weights. moving such a large amount of weight in each session is really starting to get hard.
legs and biceps tonight. my traps are in agony so resting a squat bar on it should be fun.
180kg shrugs .... thats ludicrous! but awesome at the same time.
How are you finding your recovery time is now you have ommitted carbs ?
JoshLarge
10-08-2010, 09:42 AM
Solid workout dude!
JoshLarge
10-08-2010, 09:43 AM
Eggs and Salmon mate have to be the best choices!
thanks guys. CTP - i havent removed carbs completely im jsut trying to cut down to make way for more fats and protein. its a steady transition. my recovery since starting this new training routine has been great. its forcing my body to recover far quicker.
going for 200kg shrugs next week but it felt like the straps were pulling my hands off when i was doing them with 180kg lol.
JoshLarge
10-08-2010, 09:52 AM
10eggs a day, some salmon, olive oil in 3 of your shakes say a tablespoon and some nuts...your gonna be looking at around 130-150g of fats a day surely?
at the moment im having 5 eggs. olive oil in 5 shakes per day, i got some nice fatty mince yesterday, gonna get some good old cashews tonight and may invest in some udos. thats the plan anyway. good to have you back btw josh :)
Thats sounds kewl! What type of straps have you got? I think with a 100kg per arm it will remain uncomfortable regardless of kit lol
i normally use the hypertophy hold on hooks which are great but ive been doing it on the smith machine and i cant rack/unrack with the hooks so needed to use some maximuscle straps. i managed the 120kg rows without straps but my hands were being shredded even with straps on the 180kg. i need to work on my grip. i used to be able to deadlift 200kg without straps.
JoshLarge
10-08-2010, 11:33 AM
I think i need some new straps!
Not very masucline, but it sounds lie you need some padding underneath your Wraps Ac, I have a chape and chearful pair of warps, but I also have a 2 half tea towells in my bag for when I lift / shrug heavy. I put them on under the straps to give a little more cushioing..... during the winter months ill put on a long leave jumper, and fix the straps on top of the jumper.
......http://www.schiek.com/straps.html
From a post by Glenn, they look sooooo comfy though :D
those straps are pretty much the same as the hypertophy hold ons i have. they are comfy but the hooks dragging up your thighs on heavy shrugs leads to a lot of blood lol.
*Cringe* ... nightmare on Elm Street .. version 2! (BodyBuilder style)
AC - what syour ideal endstate size?
numerouno
10-08-2010, 12:59 PM
I use they Schiek straps and they are really good, they don't have hooks, purely canvas so there is no problem with friction burns :)
Glenn
10-08-2010, 01:08 PM
I have some of the Model 1000-PLS - Power Lifting Straps, which are a big improvement over some basic straps I had before. Been up to 200kg with no issues.
Awesome grip strength to do 200kg deadlift without straps AC!
*Cringe* ... nightmare on Elm Street .. version 2! (BodyBuilder style)
AC - what syour ideal endstate size?
yeah we've had some very bloody legs in the past on deads and shrugs from either bar dragging or the hooks sliding in and dragging up the legs. ouch
i dont have an ideal size. i accepted long ago that i would never be happy so what i think looks good now will look terrible when i achieve it. IF i achieve it. 16 stone at 8% bodyfat would be nice. only 2 stone of pure muscle to go.
I have some of the Model 1000-PLS - Power Lifting Straps, which are a big improvement over some basic straps I had before. Been up to 200kg with no issues.
Awesome grip strength to do 200kg deadlift without straps AC!
thanks. my hands were literally bleeding afterwards though. you know the blisters you get at the bottom of your fingers on your palms. i didnt get them it jsut literally pulled the skin off my hands lol
training update:
squats: 110kg - 5 x 5
hamstring curls - stack 130 - 3 x 8
leg extensions - 90kg - 3 x 8
preacher machine - stack 10 - 5 x 5
hammer curls - 20kg DB's - 3 x 8
I have one hell of a pack up today. ive brought with me:
8 eggs
2 chicken breasts
200g white rice
1 tin tuna
250g pilau rice
300g mince
2 shakes of gaspari real mass.
time to get biiiiig!!!!!
JoshLarge
11-08-2010, 09:21 AM
I have seeb his pack up and he's not lieing! ITs a feast!
I wish i got as many comments on my mass thread as yours! lol
numerouno
11-08-2010, 09:33 AM
Now thats what I call a packed lunch! Do you bring it all into work in a suitcase! How do you prep your eggs for pack up?
Think small :)
eggs are now added to my shakes :)
whack them in a shaker with a load of olive oil and gaspari real mass and away i go lol
JoshLarge
11-08-2010, 10:19 AM
You following a diet then AC - or just eating within what calories you need:?
im eating as much as possible. once i figure out what i can pheasably cook and eat a day then ill rejig my diet.
numerouno
11-08-2010, 11:17 AM
I'm just gonna copy AC's diet from now on, I think I have the same metabolism as him. Keep trying everything possible AC and let me know when we're onto a winner!
training last night was fantastic. did chest and tris and improved on all my lifts. i have a goal now to catch machine so im really pushing it lol.
it went as follows:
Bench press - 110kg - 5 x 5 (feeling easier than 90kg did 2 weeks ago)
incline bench press - 85kg - 8, 8, 6 (DAMN, still an improvement on last week)
cables - 45kg per side - 8, 8, 6
dips - +25kg - 5 x 5
cable pushdowns - 55kg - 3 x 8
my training partner managed 5 x 5 with 160kg on bench press so ive decided hes not allowed on fitforum or else he will rule all of the leaderboards lol.
Glenn
13-08-2010, 08:53 AM
my training partner managed 5 x 5 with 160kg on bench press so ive decided hes not allowed on fitforum or else he will rule all of the leaderboards lol.
Holy ****, that's epic, I think I need a different hobby!
fridays training went as follows:
barbell row - 120kg - 5 x 5
chins - +12.5kg - 8, 8, 6, 5
shrugs - 200kg - 3 x 8 (these REALLY hurt my legs, back and wrists lol)
couldnt do behind neck press as id cut my neck to bits with the bar the week before so i did seated machine press. did 8 x 5 with as heavy weight as i could.
the weekends eating was appaling as usual and i barely ate anything yesterday as i felt crap. ive got the house to myself for a couple of days so will be cooking a huge amount of food tonight for the next few days and then RELAXING!!
the strenght jsut keeps on growing!!
did chest last night and am incredibly happy to say i managed the 115kg. considering 3 weeks ago i struggled with 90kg for 5 x 5 im extremely happy with this. this new routine is going soooo well. its probably the best strength routine ive ever done.
the session went as follows:
bench press - 115kg - 5 x 5 (120kg on friday!!)
incline bench press - 85kg - 3 x 8 (failed on this last week so thats an improvement)
cables - 45kg either side - 3 x 8 (same as last week, dont want to increase weight as im concentrating on style)
dip machine - full stack - 5 x 5 (dip station was taken)
cable pushdowns - 60kg - 3 x 8
calfs - 5 very hard sets followed by a drop set.
im training back and shoulders tonight but have 2 hours of football after with work so may have to cut it down to jsut shoulders today.
Glenn
17-08-2010, 10:07 AM
Good stuff, sounds like you are really getting back on track there AC. How's the appetite going? Still struggling to shovel all your food down?
thanks glenn. eah its still a struggle but im managing ok. my weight is still the same though :(
i guess being stronger at the same bodyweight is good as i can do more chins and dips lol.
hi ac, been reading your blog and you seem to sure know your stuff.
i did your chest and tri workout last week and must was the best workout ive had in a long time.
great pumps which i dont normally get, so thanks!
good stuff mb1 glad you enjoyed it.
cheers ac, giving your back and sholders workout a go tommorow so hoping for the same!
quick question would you say test boosters are worth a shot as im bulking and need something to help pack on few pounds apart from weight gainers and creatine. im 30 by the way
any advice would be great.
at your age test boosters can be very useful yes as test levels may start to drop. it unlikely they will add pounds of muscle but they will certainly help.
had to be a quick one last night as i was playing football for work so i jsut did shoulders.
my goal on standing shoulder press was 80kg for 5 x 5. 3 weeks ago i was on 50kg and found it quite difficult. i thought by christmas i might get to 80kg. it appears now that ill be doing it by next session.
the workout last night went:
standing behind neck shoulder press - 75kg - 5 x 5
lateral raises - 17.5kg's - 3 x 8
shrugs - 220kg lol - 3 x 8
the shrugs were actually with still fairly good style. yes i was bouncing a lot but i was getting my shoulders nice and high.
played football for 2 hours and after training calfs on monday they are now in absolute agony. i cant get off my tip toes.
off to see the expendables tonight so that should give me some inspiration.
Whats your weight and measurements look like now Ads?
still poo. my measurements as of 3 weeks ago were (all unpumped):
arms - 16.5
chest - 45
quad - 23
weight 91kg
my weight yesterday was 93kg which it has been for the last week. my girlfriend is going to uni in 3 weeks so im spending quite a lot of time with her and end up not eating which is think is the reason for my lack of weight gain. when she goes to uni i think ill put on some weight as ill be sat on my lonesome at home eating lol.
itll get better, just think of all the comfort eating you can do when she is gone........
numerouno
18-08-2010, 12:29 PM
I can picture it now, AC sat all alone staring out the window, crying into a big bowl of beef chunks!!
JoshLarge
18-08-2010, 12:48 PM
Ill take him under my wing! We will get massive together.
LOL - ive got images of him trying to knock up a baths worth or protein powder using an industril drill as a makeshift whisk, then just sitting there with a straw a slurping away to his eharts content!
... ON a different note AC - how you getting on with those GASPARI vests?? Convinced the boss man at MS he needs to stock them yet?
joevizz
18-08-2010, 04:28 PM
AC your starting to annoy me now!!! lol ;) how the hell do you increase your standing shoulder press by 25kg in 3 weeks? and i thought Josh's avatar was actually him and he'd got even bigger in the same amount of time, my motivation almost completely disappeared for a moment lol
hahaha josh's avatar is most certainly NOT him. although he is huge now. my strength with this routine is insane.
considering a mere 3 weeks ago i was benching 90kg for 5 x 5. tonight im going for 120kg for 5 x 5. considering that was my 2 month goal and ive achieved it within 3 weeks im very happy with the way my strength has improved. looking back at my first back and shoulders session i was shrugging 130kg. last workout i did 220kg for the same reps.
such the good workout.
bench press tonight and im actually nervous lol.
LOL - are you using a PH cycle at the moment AC or going O'natual?
i am happy to say i am 100% natural. i arent getting any bigger but at least im not a feeble weakling anymore.
Machine
20-08-2010, 01:56 PM
know the feeling bro its good being god like! looks like i have less time to get to 150kg on bench lol
chale989
20-08-2010, 02:04 PM
joe for a minute i thought joshs avatar was him aswell. haha
I FAILED!!!!!!
didnt make the 5 x 5 with 120kg. DAMN. the workout went as follows:
bench press - 120kg - 5, 5, 4, 3, 3
incline bench press - 90kg - 6, 5, 4
cables - 45kg - 3 x 8
tricep pushdowns - 60kg - 3 x 8
had a chinese for tea and actually really enjoyed it. went to someones birthday party and some guys were smoking weed and i think the fumes made me hungry lol. (i didnt smoke it).
gonna have the weekend off and then hit back and shoulders hard on monday.
ryan-carey
21-08-2010, 11:22 AM
I FAILED!!!!!!
didnt make the 5 x 5 with 120kg. DAMN. the workout went as follows:
bench press - 120kg - 5, 5, 4, 3, 3
incline bench press - 90kg - 6, 5, 4
cables - 45kg - 3 x 8
tricep pushdowns - 60kg - 3 x 8
had a chinese for tea and actually really enjoyed it. went to someones birthday party and some guys were smoking weed and i think the fumes made me hungry lol. (i didnt smoke it).
gonna have the weekend off and then hit back and shoulders hard on monday.
haha AC got the munchies
lol im considering "blazing up a doobie" every morning whilst mass gaining. hahahaha
ryan-carey
21-08-2010, 12:22 PM
lol im considering "blazing up a doobie" every morning whilst mass gaining. hahahaha
haha i thought weed increased your metabolic rate, which is bad if you're mass gaining right?
Machine
21-08-2010, 12:56 PM
Ha ha munchies for bulking lol
ok i nearly hit my 3 month goal for shoulder press last night after only 4 weeks lol. im really enjoying the constant fast progress of this new routine. Had a really good workout although it took about 90 minutes as we were going to maximum and had quite long rest breaks.
standing behind neck shoulder press - 80kg - 5, 5, 5, 3, 3
lateral raises - 15kg DB's - 3 x 8 (did these with my back on a pillar so they were uber good style)
shrugs - 220kg - 3 x 8 (still shreds my thighs to pieces lol)
barbell row - 120kg - 5 x 5
chins - +12.5kg - 4 x 8 (yay move up to 15kg)
then got home. ate my tea and cooked 1kg of chicken.
got squats tonight. havent done them in a couple of weeks due to a few unforseen circumstances on legs days so am wary about what ill be able to do. most likely very little lol.
Machine
24-08-2010, 08:43 AM
He's the shrug master!
numerouno
24-08-2010, 08:43 AM
Great work chief, esp on the chins, good prep for that extra 15kg you'll be permanently carrying around soon! The question is are you growing!!
no my bodyweight is still exactly the same as when i got back off holiday lol. dont know whats wrong with my body lol. im having easily over 3000 calories per day. i guess its meaning pound for pound im getting a lot stronger lol.
JoshLarge
24-08-2010, 08:59 AM
Prffff...you get so many comments! Im so lonely in my thread. lol.
good lifting pal.
hahahaha its coz people feel sorry for me and my lack of mass.
JoshLarge
24-08-2010, 09:35 AM
with such heavy shrugging, i expect your traps to be HUGE!
Are you getting heavier though AC?
JoshLarge
24-08-2010, 11:07 AM
Ctp -
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no my bodyweight is still exactly the same as when i got back off holiday lol. Dont know whats wrong with my body lol. Im having easily over 3000 calories per day. I guess its meaning pound for pound im getting a lot stronger lol.
Im having to re-read things so many times today -I had some wacky distrubing dreams last night (blame the relfex zinc matrix).
fairly good session last night.
squats - 120kg - 5, 5, 5, 3, 3
leg extensions - 100kg - 3 x 8
preacher curl machine - stack 10 - 5 x 5
seated hammer curls - 25kg DB's - 3 x 8
had some fish, potatoes and veg for tea then was actually hungry!!! shock horror. so i had a couple of mini rolls and a syntha 6.
JoshLarge
25-08-2010, 08:35 AM
Yeahhhh....such the good hunger!! You will soon be back to good old AC who will eat EVERYTHING!
I dont understand how your getting stronger but not heavier - I was thinking about it on the train last night.
You'd have thought with the substantial strength gain your muscels woudl be i) Denser ii) Lapping up more water
..Both of which would lead you to be heavier....
You get weaker anywhere? Or have you had a hair cut.... or anything to explain the static weight!?
hahahhaa. as ive said before cross sectional area of muscle is only one way to increase strength. overall power of contraction can be affected by a number of different means. hence powerlifters who have a certain weight class to stay in that improve their lifts with time. you can esily get stronger without getting bigger. the simpe fact is if you train hard you will get stronger. you only get bigger if your diet is good. you can train as hard as humanly possible but if you dont eat enough for your own body then you wont get any bigger. its just a shame that my own body requires an unholy amount of food to actually change even the slightest bit.
JoshLarge
25-08-2010, 08:48 AM
Exactly...if your lifting heavier..then you will be recruiting more muscle fibres...so as you lift heavier...you have the ability to recruit more muscle fibres effectively..which could explain why his lifts are increasing but his weight is still the same.
JoshLarge
25-08-2010, 08:55 AM
Yeahhhh! Im so right!
ok trained chest last night and it was another failure at the 120kg. i improved on last week by 2 reps. at this rate i will need another 2 sessions before i achieve my goal.
the session went as follows:
bench press - 120kg - 5, 5, 4, 4, 3 (last time did 5, 5, 4, 3, 2) so my staying power is improving
incline bench press - 90kg - 3 x 5
cable flyes - 3 x 5
dips - +30kg - 5 x 5
calfs - 5 sets and a drop set
i decided last night that i arent getting bigger so rather than getting disheartened im going to train for strength. at the moment im injury free so feel its a good time to do so. my rep ranges will therefore not go above 5 reps on any exercise. i wont be going to failure except on the last set of anything and hopefully my strength will improve. i have to catch josh lol.
numerouno
27-08-2010, 08:25 AM
Thats great benching, you got me beat at 120kg I had to drop down to 110kf after 2 sets on Tues! I have decided I need to monitor my bpm during workouts as think that could be the reason why my gains are a little slow, think I need to let me drop down after each set and then will use that as my gauge for rest between sets.
Strength training sounds like a good plan as you'll be lifting with good form not going to failure, are you still sticking with the 5 day split? Josh cheats so don't worry about catching him! Keep up the good work.
yeah im still going with the 5 day split.
is your aim still the same as mine for 120kg training weight?
JoshLarge
27-08-2010, 09:09 AM
Wouldnt call it cheating, i bet my diet and sleep have been alot better than adams these last 2weeks also! Next week will be a fair test so will see what i can do then
youve most likely eaten more than me but ive had a good 8-9 hours a night so i dont think im lacking there. after my birthday the competition really begins lol.
JoshLarge
27-08-2010, 09:27 AM
Not really...if it was edit it!
didnt mean to piss you off!
OMANIA
27-08-2010, 09:31 AM
What are you going to do for your birthday?
numerouno
27-08-2010, 09:37 AM
You prob need more sleep at your weight Josh!
Yeah i'd love to be able to comfortably bang out 5 x 5 @ 120. There was a guy in the gym benching 120 and made it look so easy & effortless, perfect tempo and form, although he was going close grip.
What are you going to do for your birthday?
paintballing. you coming??
numero - i hate it when people use weights that you're struggling with and make it look easy. my training partner managed 5 x 5 with 170kg last night and hes younger than me!! after i did my first set with 120kg he said ill jsut do another quick wamr up with that and banged out 10 lol. i felt like a right pussy.
OMANIA
27-08-2010, 03:31 PM
I am 100% coming
OMANIA
27-08-2010, 03:33 PM
Taylor is so strong
didnt really log much last week as training was ****e to say the least. my training partner was off ill so i was on my own. was weak and rubbish so arent happy.
am starting a new routine this week. same principles as before. same split but new exercises. it will go as follows
day 1 - chest and triceps
day 2 - shoulders and back
day 3 - legs and biceps
day 1:
bench press - 3 x 5
incline dumbell press - 3 x 5
flat flyes - 3 x 5
close grip smith machine bench - 3 x 5
overhead dumbell extensions - 3 x 5
day 2:
deadlift - 3 x 5
underhand chins - 3 x 5
low pulley row - 2 x 5
smith machine shoulder press - 3 x 5
seated dumbell press - 3 x 5
cable lateral raise - 2 x 8
day 3:
leg press - 3 x 5
hack squats - 3 x 5
leg exensions - 3 x 8
seated dumbell curls - 3 x 5
rope hammer curls - 3 x 5
its day 2 tonight so gonna do some deadlift. yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah buddy!!!!!
JoshLarge
06-09-2010, 01:03 PM
I think you should Dogcrapp it homie! So good for strength! More fun too. lol.
But your routine looks solid.
Do you legs respond to such low volume training?
lol such the good dogcrapp. ill give it a go when i get bored of this one.
You prob need more sleep at your weight Josh!
Yeah i'd love to be able to comfortably bang out 5 x 5 @ 120. There was a guy in the gym benching 120 and made it look so easy & effortless, perfect tempo and form, although he was going close grip.
There is a guy in my gym (40-45) who must be about 5% BF... His arms look like road map with relief... veins, muscle, stritations. During his back workout, he does pull ups last - i do them first as I struggle.
On the x-trainer on thursday I watched him do 10 wide grip chins WITH an extra 20kg plate dangling from his belt! He made it look so easy ... grrrrrr
He then went on to do another 4 sets - all bar teh last he heaved up with an extra dumb bell!
didnt really log much last week as training was ****e to say the least. my training partner was off ill so i was on my own. was weak and rubbish so arent happy.
am starting a new routine this week. same principles as before. same split but new exercises. it will go as follows
day 1 - chest and triceps
day 2 - shoulders and back
day 3 - legs and biceps
day 1:
bench press - 3 x 5
incline dumbell press - 3 x 5
flat flyes - 3 x 5
close grip smith machine bench - 3 x 5
overhead dumbell extensions - 3 x 5
day 2:
deadlift - 3 x 5
underhand chins - 3 x 5
low pulley row - 2 x 5
smith machine shoulder press - 3 x 5
seated dumbell press - 3 x 5
cable lateral raise - 2 x 8
day 3:
leg press - 3 x 5
hack squats - 3 x 5
leg exensions - 3 x 8
seated dumbell curls - 3 x 5
rope hammer curls - 3 x 5
its day 2 tonight so gonna do some deadlift. yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah buddy!!!!!
You getting any heavier yet big man?
numerouno
06-09-2010, 01:12 PM
Are you doing 3 days on and 1 off or something else, I'm suprised your changing your routine already I thought you'd found the magic routine! What are you aiming for weight wise tonight for deads? I brought some smelling salts form Boots on Sat for my deadlifting, don't think they helped much just gave me a massive head spin!!
no heavier but im pretty sure over the next few weeks ill get nice and big. girlfriend is now at uni so i have nothing to do every day except cook and eat lol. it will be gym, eat, rest, eat, sleep every day lol.
those chins are impressive. i hope one day i will be doing chins with that kind of weight hanging off me. i got 8 with 15kg but the style was a bit swingy to say the least.
Are you doing 3 days on and 1 off or something else, I'm suprised your changing your routine already I thought you'd found the magic routine! What are you aiming for weight wise tonight for deads? I brought some smelling salts form Boots on Sat for my deadlifting, don't think they helped much just gave me a massive head spin!!
ive done that last one for about 6 weeks i think so feel like a change. plus i REALLY want to deadlift lol. first time back doing them so i think ill go for 160kg for 3 x 5. shouldnt be a problem but i dont want to go crazy straight away. i also dont want to use straps.
i train mon, tues, thurs, fri, sat so 2 on, 1 off, 3 on, 1 off.
numerouno
06-09-2010, 01:26 PM
I like it ALOT. I reckon you could easily get 170 for 5.
no heavier but im pretty sure over the next few weeks ill get nice and big. girlfriend is now at uni so i have nothing to do every day except cook and eat lol. it will be gym, eat, rest, eat, sleep every day lol.
those chins are impressive. i hope one day i will be doing chins with that kind of weight hanging off me. i got 8 with 15kg but the style was a bit swingy to say the least.
what makes it so impressive is he is allof about 5'0" in height. He is a machine on the bench, as well as on the deadlifts also!
------ I think if he has his way the gym woudl invest in more 40kg plates!
JoshLarge
06-09-2010, 01:33 PM
I think AC, you should let me do you a diet...and you will put weight on.
its not down to bad diet it is simply down to lack of quantity. even if i ate nothing but fat i couldnt eat enough of it to put on weight
JoshLarge
06-09-2010, 01:53 PM
Why dont you just drink 2-3litres of milk everday then..till your appetite comes back?
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm milk. how many calories are in 3 litres of milk? cant be that many
numerouno
06-09-2010, 02:07 PM
Have you replicated the day you brought in all those eggs, chiken, tuna, beef etc much? I can't believe following that diet everyday you couldn't put on weight?
today i have had:
7:30AM - double syntha 6 with 500ml of milk and 5 tbl spoons olive oil
9:00AM - 100g maltodextrin in lemon barley water with a pro 50 bar (lol at the impending maltodextrin comment from josh)
11:00AM - banana
11:30AM - 250g rice + tin tuna
1:15PM - gaspari real mass
2:45PM - 200g mince with onion and chicli con carne sauce
then my plan is
3:30PM - 1 scoop gaspari real mass
4:30PM - 200g chicken stir fry + 100g maltodextrin
5:15PM - train
6:30PM - phd recovery
8:00PM - 2 x haddock fillets with either potato or rice (dont know what i can be arsed to cook)
10:00PM - 2 servings of syntha 6 with 500ml milk and loads of oil
ive also drank 1 ltr of lucozade lol which has 700 cals. i must be somewhere near 3500 to 4000 cals as the mince is covered in fat and im eating regularly. the only bad point is that this week i wont be eating enough veg (parents on holiday and i can never be arsed to cook it) and i dont eat enough in a morning but when i wake up i jsut cant stomach it. im getting some mega shake ingredients tonight so at least ill be having plenty of oats and eggs with my breakfast even if they are blended up.
JoshLarge
06-09-2010, 02:23 PM
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm milk. how many calories are in 3 litres of milk? cant be that many
about 2000calories for full fat man!
JoshLarge
06-09-2010, 02:24 PM
Poor adam with 0 appetite. lol.
Check out my thread with what i have eaten...you need to get eating son.
Im of the opinion that if in 7 days time you havnt put on any weight you should go to the vets and be checked for Worms!! Because there will definately be something wrong with you!
Have you looked at easy prep snacks? such as the pre filled 3 minute pasta shells? and fatty pastrys (pies, slices etc...nto good fat though), or even cous cous?
Poor adam with 0 appetite. lol.
Check out my thread with what i have eaten...you need to get eating son.
the fatherly voice speaks!
joevizz
06-09-2010, 03:23 PM
Tesco do like a Granola flapjacky thing, obviously it's not the best, but its relatively small, cheap and has around 2,000 cals for the whole thing.
what makes it so impressive is he is allof about 5'0" in height. He is a machine on the bench, as well as on the deadlifts also!
------ I think if he has his way the gym woudl invest in more 40kg plates!
Wouldn't that make it easier for him to do all them exercises, while still impressive, im guessing he's gonna be a lot lighter than someone like Adam who's 6'4, and if his arms are in proportion to his height then he'll have a much smaller range of motion for bench press?
true that. im like an orangutang with my arms. nothing compared to my legs though lol.
trained back and shoulders last night.
deadlift - 160kg - 3 x 5 (very easy but dont want to go overboard too quick)
underhand chins - +20kg - 3 x 5
low pulley row - 180kg - rest pause 20 reps
smith machine shoulder press - 50kg - 3 x 5
dumbell shoulder press - 30kg DB's - 3 x 5
cable lateral raises - 15kg - 2 x 8
my diet yesterday was as i wrote it.
bad news today. been sent home from work as i felt like death then had to pull over on way home to be sick. im going to docs later to try and figure out whats wrong with me.
ok it turns out the reason for my lack of appetite and inability to eat without being sick is not down to me being a fag but rather i may have a stomach ulser lol. i need to go for some tests next week to see what the problem is.
ok it turns out the reason for my lack of appetite and inability to eat without being sick is not down to me being a fag but rather i may have a stomach ulser lol. i need to go for some tests next week to see what the problem is.
Thats no good, you ok? (Other than the obvious Ulser?) .. Any idea waht caused it?
no idea what caused it. may have been 10 days of solid drinking in magaluf. that certainly didnt help. my sister had one a few months ago so maybe they run in the family lol.
warren1987
08-09-2010, 09:35 AM
Hope everything comes back alright with the Ulcer Adam, never had one nor do I want one but have heard they can be painful at times depending on what your eating and drinking and are easily set off. Chin up mate sure it will all sort itself out int he end, you are the god of muscle after all ;)
warren1987
08-09-2010, 09:45 AM
No worries man, you still trinaing or decided to rest up for a few days? I know it's hard but rest will certainly do you good mate.
Glenn
08-09-2010, 09:57 AM
Nightmare! Hope they can get you sorted out & back into full on scoffing mode again soon big guy.
nah im not resting. the doctor never mentioned anything about resting lol. as soon as this is sorted ill be seeeeriously eating hard lol. thanks glenn
JoshLarge
08-09-2010, 10:04 AM
So much attention for AC!
hahahhaa you jealous josh? its coz im a charity case lol
warren1987
08-09-2010, 10:05 AM
When a member of the brotherhood has fallen, it's our duty to pick him up, dust him off and set him on his way, never leave a good man behind, should be the brotherhood motto. Or never leave a big man behind hehe
im sensing a liquid over solids regime coming on lol
Mega shake 3 times a day lol?
numerouno
08-09-2010, 10:21 AM
Sure if you lay of the chillies in your beef you'll be fighting fit again soon, seriously reckon a slight adjustment in your diet and it'll fix your gut. Make sure Josh looks after you while you Mrs is away, he needs to bring you lucozade, grapes and flowers to your desk everyday!
do you reckon chili's could make it worse? i dont really know much about stomach ulcers lol
numerouno
08-09-2010, 10:47 AM
I'm not sure, the stomach is a pretty inhospitable environment. It can't do any harm cutting out spicy/acidic food, apart from having an even blander diet :(
warren1987
08-09-2010, 11:24 AM
Spicy foods are supposed to set them off something to do with the stomach acids having to work harder to break down what's in spicy foods I'm no culinary expert nor am I clued up on the inner workings of the stomach but I do know spicy foods aggravate them. Think it's a slight tear in the stomach lining that is like an open wound isn't it so anything overly acidic is going to cause stomach upset?
Steve Foster
08-09-2010, 11:33 AM
Anything spicy or greasy will upset an ulcer of the stomach. Not sure why, but I know someone who had one and anything greasy or spicy could make it worse. An increase in fibre may help as well mate. Get well soon dude! :cool:
ok so trained chest last night. was a pretty good session but am really struggling with strength due to this stupid stomach ulcer or whatever it is. i barely ate anything yesterday and couldnt eat after the gym.
session went as follows:
bench press - 120kg - 5, 4, 130kg x 2 (and a half)
incline dumbell press - 40kg DB's - 5, 5, 4
flat flyes - 25kg DB's - 3 x 8
i tried a new exercise for triceps. instead of close grip bench i went on a chest press machine where the handles are either side of you. i then put a french bar across the middle of it and did close grip bench on the machine with that bar. it was quite cool actually. did 5 sets of 5 and that was that
i was going to go for the 140kg bench but didnt feel up to it. may not be able to get back up to that until i can eat properly again. i jsut feel drained all the time.
back and shoulders tonight. did 160kg on deadlift last week pretty comfortably so may go for 3 x 5 with 180kg. not sure yet.
OMANIA
10-09-2010, 08:31 AM
Stomach Ulcer? Thats not good man. But well done on the lifts - how are you so strong with hardly any food?
im made of a new metal called omarium. its the strongest substance known to man.
OMANIA
10-09-2010, 09:07 AM
thats o-mazing
if anyone wanted to see the tricep exercise i was talking about its this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKnPV9vCeMQ
felt really good
ok some good news and some bad news. ill start with the bad news. this stomach ulcer is destroying my plans of being massive. i now weigh a pathetic 90.5kg which is the lightest ive been in over a year. i physically cant eat. and when i do im sure my body isnt digesting it properly so im not getting any of the nutrients. im wasting away.
on a lighter note my strength isnt dropping too much. i managed my 3 x 5 with 180kg on deadlift last night. my back still had some DOMS from last doing it so i thought id struggle but it went up ok. i think i could have got about 8 reps on the first set.
heres the workout:
deadlift - 180kg - 3 x 5
underhand chins - +22.5kg - 5, 4, 4
smith machine shoulder press - 60kg - 3 x 5 (way too easy)
dumbell shoulder press - 30kg DB's - 3 x 5
so yeah it was an ok workout but then i havent eaten anything since lol.
Machine
11-09-2010, 09:33 AM
suck it up brother. ohg actualy dont suck it up. you must make sure you follow the medical advice givin by your G.P. dont try to be a MAN and push through it. as uri isnt about i just wanted to fill in lol
Urithrand
11-09-2010, 09:51 AM
Adam, please be careful how much you're working out when your body's underfed. I know you already know that but just wanted to make sure you're not overdoing it, or soon a stomach ulcer might now be your only problem. Remember that no matter how much you feel like you're losing, you can get it back again, but your health must come first!
Get well soon dude :)
Edit: lmao, I just read Machine's post... He knows me so well XD
PanicAcid
11-09-2010, 09:52 AM
Dude I'm really sorry to hear about your stomach being a tw*t, look on the bright side, you're still as big / bigger than the rest of us Ecto's and despite you dropping in weight the ecto's still look up to you lol.
thanks guys. you are very predictable dr sensible lol. i jsut cant wait for wednesday to get tested. im actually hoping it definately is a stomach ulcer so that i can get it sorted. if it turns out its not then im screwed lol.
numerouno
11-09-2010, 12:39 PM
Damn that's some good deadlifting, especially on your current diet. Know you'll come back bigger and stronger from this, as Arnie said that which doesn't kill us makes us stronger.
Urithrand
11-09-2010, 01:44 PM
I'm pretty sure that's not an original Arnie quote...
Glenn
11-09-2010, 04:20 PM
Can you put protein shakes in an IV drip...?
;)
thats so weird you say that. me and josh were discussing that very thing earlier lol.
ok so my weight is still the same but my strength is going up. im the strongest ive ever been i think!!
last night had an awesome workout. was in the gym for an hour and a half after id finished spotting and pushing josh, chris, abe and richdunn.
finally mmatched my best ever bench press and it felt easy. the session went as follows:
bench press:
60kg warm up
100kg x 5
120kg x 1
135kg x 1
140kg x 1 (video will be available soon)
incline dumbell press:
40kg DB's - 8, 6, 6
flat flyes:
25kg DB's 3 x 8
close grip hammer press:
dont know weight - 4 x 6-8
pushdowns:
dont know weight - 3 x 8-10
really enjoyed it.
went to have some tests done this morning at the docs so hopefully ill find out whats wrong with me within the next 10 days. fingers crossed.
had a short but good session tonight:
deadlift:
60kg warm up
100kg x 5
140kg x 5
190kg x 3 sets x 5 reps
underhand chins:
+22.5kg x 3 x 5
then i got distracted by abe and richdunn not training hard enough. abe ended up outside on the floor struggling to breathe and richdunn nearly fell down the stairs due to wobbly legs lol. im such a dick
underhand chins:
+22.5kg x 3 x 5
They from a dead hang? becuase I think your just beginning to show off now :P
yeah theyre proper chins. no swinging. underhand is easier than wide grip. ive only managed 15kg wide grip. thats one good thing about being unable to put on weight. your chins improve lol
over the weekend i trained chest on sunday. was a pretty good workout but my triceps were in agony from friday (just batteredt triceps on their own) so my pressing was a bit down. trained with chris and his dad which was quite fun. chris was going for the 190kg bench press so made me look like a fanny lol.
workout went as follows:
bench press:
60kg warm up
100kg x 5
120kg x 5
120kg x 5
130kg x 3
incline dumbell press:
45kg DB's x 6
40kg DB's x 8
40kg DB's x 6
flat flyes:
25kg DB's x 3 x 8
then laid in bed most of the rest of the day.
next weekend is going to be the ultimate recovery weekend. got a free house and the full extended lord of the rings boxset :) 12 hours of good watching lol. i dont plan on moving all weekdn. except for designated toilet and protein breaks.
Ashers
20-09-2010, 02:36 PM
YES, LOTR is the best!!!
theres 20 hours of bonus features so ill crack on with those tonight. hoooooraaaah for the geeks of this world.
numerouno
20-09-2010, 02:49 PM
Thats 20 hours you could spend replying to threads on the forum. I watched first blood for the first time at weekend, that was a good film.
Thats 20 hours you could spend replying to threads on the forum. I watched first blood for the first time at weekend, that was a good film.
FOR THE FIRST TIME????????????? How did you go so long without it?
had a good fun session last nite. trained with omania and was really good to have someone at a very similar level to me to push me along.
deadlift:
100kg warm up
140kg x 5
200kg x 5
200kg x 3
had to stop as back was killing. omania got 3 x 210 and chris got 4 x 260kg lol so i felt like a pansy.
underhand chins:
+ 22.5kg x 5
+ 17.5kg x 8
+ 17.5kg x 6 then drop to bodyweight for another 5
new back machine:
2 sets of 8 then a crazy drop set of about a million reps.
Helllooooooooooooo............................
*ducks head to avoid cobwebs and bats*
Anybody in here?
*opens cupboard and -AC-'s skeleton falls out clutching a smelly old shaker*
this thread will be resurrected in due course. just you wait and see. come new year ill be buying every supplement available and actually training lol.
happy new year everyone.
I am in the process of trying to sort out my training. its very all over the place at the moment as i dont know what i want to do with myself. i have to weigh up the pro's and cons of the goals i want to achieve with my body and my training. i have tried for so long to be big and strong and that is all i cared about. however now i am starting to feel that that isnt the final goal. being big isnt all its cracked up to be. when you are young and in clubs etc people see big guys as something special or respectable but by the time you are in your 30's and 40's you are just another big guy or former bodybuilder etc. i personally would rather be physically fit, in great shape (ripped with a decent amount of muscle mass) and be good at something that i had trained towards. Then on the flip side of that i am getting quite annoyed by the amount of people saying "god you've lost weight". i have never wanted to punch my family and friends more in my entire life.
so the decisio... at the moment my training partner is out of action so my weights sessions are fast and intense. im doing about 20-30 sets in around 30 minutes. im quite enjoying it and leaving the gym earlier is nice. the weights im using arent too poor either. im still managing to lift respectably. The main thing i want to do though is get my fitness back up and start boxing again. a friend of mine who is a boxing coach wants to lose some weight so i said i would do some trianing with him in return for free coaching. ill also be looking at different clubs once my training partner is back to full strength (hes a terrifyingly good boxer). This will give me a new goal and something that i can see improvements in without having the constant worry of going backwards if i have a bad weekend of not eating. the constant threat of losing gains with diet wont be there so i can relax and hopefully get over my food phobias lol. i will of course lose some weight and more people will comment on me being a skinny **** but then ill just beat the crap out of them :)
so these are my current thoughts on training matters. if anyone cares to offer any friendly advice please do so.
thanks
Glenn
03-01-2011, 11:27 AM
Might not be a bad plan that Adam... you could leave getting massive until you get a bit older & your metabolism slows down a bit, presumably you might have had enough of getting punched in the head by that time too ;)
In all seriousness, motivation is the key to success so if that feels right & you will enjoy doing that then go for it!
numerouno
03-01-2011, 12:23 PM
I think you should stick with the weights, its who you are and you can't change that, I think if you have the training gene no other sport will ever give you the satisfaction and motivation of hitting the weights room and challenging yourself against the iron. I play a number of other sports and in the past thought I should stop wasting my time in the gym & put more priority on them but I always found the call of the gym was too strong and it would always take priority again!
Remember training is your leisure time and therefore should be enjoyed and not seen as a chore. Don't become disheartened if your not the biggest guy in Hull as long as you enjoy your training and feel you get something back from it that is the most important. Training is the best sport, feeling and lifestyle in the world.... never forget that :)
i agree numero that nothing has ever stuck like weight lifting but i have boxed and trained MMA on and off for a few years and always wanted to take it more seriously but it always came second to weight training. now that i feel my determination to achieve weight lifting goals is waining i think its a good time to try focusing on these other things that i enjoy rather than pushing them to the back of the priority list. if you cant be big you gotta be tough lol.
chale989
03-01-2011, 12:42 PM
Everyone in this world wants to be able to beat people up. If your big enough then people wont even bother looking twice at you and with training for them sports if you kick someone in you can get punished worse as you have trained for that. People these days just use bottles or poles anyway so boxing wont do much help.
I would stick to the weight and i agree with everythign numero said as everyone sees you as a body building guru
Everyone in this world wants to be able to beat people up. If your big enough then people wont even bother looking twice at you and with training for them sports if you kick someone in you can get punished worse as you have trained for that. People these days just use bottles or poles anyway so boxing wont do much help.
I would stick to the weight and i agree with everythign numero said as everyone sees you as a body building guru
i dont think you understood the clear irony in my beating people up statement. i have no intention of beating people up lol. besides im a renowned strangler rather than puncher lol. also who carries a pole? you hear in the news about people getting bottled but never poled lol.
dieselbhoi
03-01-2011, 01:12 PM
i can pole a person with my fist..lol
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